Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

03/02/2023 01:00 PM House MILITARY & VETERANS' AFFAIRS

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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HJR 4 HONORING THE ALASKA-KOREA RELATIONSHIP TELECONFERENCED
Moved HJR 4 Out of Committee
+= HB 76 PAY FOR AK DEFENSE FORCE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 76(MLV) Out of Committee
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
   HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON MILITARY AND VETERANS' AFFAIRS                                                                  
                         March 2, 2023                                                                                          
                           1:01 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stanley Wright, Chair                                                                                            
Representative Laddie Shaw                                                                                                      
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Cliff Groh                                                                                                       
Representative Andrew Gray                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative George Rauscher                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 4                                                                                                    
Honoring the Alaska-Korea relationship;  and celebrating the 70th                                                               
anniversary  of  the Mutual  Defense  Treaty  between the  United                                                               
States and  the Republic  of Korea, the  70th anniversary  of the                                                               
Korean  Armistice Agreement,  and  the 120th  anniversary of  the                                                               
first Korean immigration to the United States.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HJR 4 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 76                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to pay for the Alaska State Defense Force; and                                                                 
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 76(MLV) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HJR  4                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: HONORING THE ALASKA-KOREA RELATIONSHIP                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) MINA                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
02/08/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/08/23       (H)       MLV, STA                                                                                               
02/28/23       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/28/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/28/23       (H)       MINUTE(MLV)                                                                                            
03/02/23       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  76                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PAY FOR AK DEFENSE FORCE                                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/15/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/15/23       (H)       MLV                                                                                                    
02/28/23       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/28/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/28/23       (H)       MINUTE(MLV)                                                                                            
03/01/23       (H)       FIN REFERRAL ADDED AFTER MLV                                                                           
03/01/23       (H)       BILL REPRINTED                                                                                         
03/02/23       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
FORREST WOLFE, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Stanley Wright                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented Amendment 1 to HJR 4 on behalf of                                                              
Representative Wright, prime sponsor.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG CHRISTENSEN, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                          
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Alaska Department Military and Veterans' Affairs                                                                                
Joint Base Elmendorf Richardson, Alaska                                                                                         
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing on HB
76.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BOB ERNISSE, Director                                                                                                           
Division of Administrative Services                                                                                             
Alaska Department of Military and Veterans' Affairs                                                                             
Joint Base Elmendorf Richardson, Alaska                                                                                         
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing HB
76.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:01:04 PM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR STANLEY WRIGHT called the House Special Committee on                                                                    
Military and Veterans' Affairs meeting to order at 1:01 p.m.                                                                    
Representatives Shaw, Groh, Gray, and Wright were present at the                                                                
call to order.  Representatives  Carpenter and Saddler joined the                                                               
meeting in progress.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
         HJR  4-HONORING THE ALASKA-KOREA RELATIONSHIP                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:01:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WRIGHT announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  JOINT   RESOLUTION  NO.   4,  Honoring   the  Alaska-Korea                                                               
relationship; and celebrating the  70th anniversary of the Mutual                                                               
Defense  Treaty between  the United  States and  the Republic  of                                                               
Korea, the  70th anniversary of  the Korean  Armistice Agreement,                                                               
and the 120th anniversary of  the first Korean immigration to the                                                               
United States.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:02:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW moved  to report HJR 4 out  of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  zero  fiscal                                                               
note.   There being no objection,  HJR 4 was reported  out of the                                                               
House Special Committee on Military and Veterans' Affairs.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:02:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:02 p.m. to 1:05 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                 HB  76-PAY FOR AK DEFENSE FORCE                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:05:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WRIGHT announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  76, "An Act relating to pay  for the Alaska State                                                               
Defense Force; and providing for an effective date."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WRIGHT indicated  that there would need to be  an update to                                                               
the title of  the bill by adding "allowances",  as recommended by                                                               
a drafter from  Legislative Legal Services.  He said  that a copy                                                               
of the amendment was distributed to committee members.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:06:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WRIGHT  moved to adopt Amendment  1, labeled 33-GH1579\A.1,                                                               
Radford, 2/28/23, which read:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 1, following "pay":                                                                                           
     Insert "and allowances"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW objected for the purposes of discussion.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:06:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FORREST  WOLFE,  Staff,  Representative  Stanley  Wright,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature, introduced  Amendment 1 to HB 76  on behalf of                                                               
Representative Wright, prime sponsor.   He stated that, since the                                                               
bill deals  with the substantive  issues of pay and  allowances -                                                               
and there are  statutory guidance and definitions  for such terms                                                               
-  Legislative  Legal  Services advised  that  the  amendment  is                                                               
needed  in  order for  the  title  of  the  bill to  reflect  the                                                               
legislation's substance.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:07:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked what  the definition of "allowances"                                                               
is in this context.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:07:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WOLFE  offered his understanding  that the changes  relate to                                                               
housing stipends, or per diem.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:07:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG   CHRISTENSEN,   Deputy   Commissioner,   Office   of   the                                                               
Commissioner, Alaska  Department Military and  Veterans' Affairs,                                                               
answered  that active-duty  members have  a base  pay scale.   In                                                               
addition   to   active-duty  base   pay,   he   said  there   are                                                               
"allowances", such  as subsistence  and basic  housing.   He said                                                               
that  typically active-duty  military  see a  lump  sum in  their                                                               
paychecks.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   questioned  if  the  language   in  the                                                               
amendment  was for  housing in  addition to  pay, and  whether it                                                               
will affect the fiscal note.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHRISTENSEN responded  that Amendment 1 would  not change the                                                               
fiscal note.   He said the  military pay scale is  broken down to                                                               
basic allowance for subsistence and  basic allowance for pay.  He                                                               
explained  that the  military  continues to  use  a specific  pay                                                               
scale by  statute and is  also using  that pay scale  for housing                                                               
costs and food costs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER focused  attention on page 1,  lines 8 and                                                               
9 of HB  76.  He paraphrased that the  bill orders that organized                                                               
militia and Alaska  State Defense Force (ASDF) would  be paid the                                                               
same conditions  as state officials  and employees.  He  asked if                                                               
ASDF pay allowances would be  indexed to state workers or active-                                                               
duty military.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHRISTENSEN responded  by pointing members to  the section of                                                               
HB  76 above  the lines  in question  on page  1 that  is talking                                                               
about  pay,  whereas  the  section  below  it  is  talking  about                                                               
allowances.   He said that  the sentence to be  changed addresses                                                               
both pay  and allowances.  He  said that when HB  76 was drafted,                                                               
the bill  should have  been only  addressing "allowances"  in the                                                               
paragraph and addressing "pay" in the previous paragraph.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:11:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:11 p.m. to 1:13 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:13:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BOB  ERNISSE,   Director,  Alaska  Department  of   Military  and                                                               
Veterans'   Affairs,   Division   of   Administrative   Services,                                                               
explained  that the  allowance related  statues refer  to active-                                                               
duty  members  receiving  them;  an  example  is  per-diem.    In                                                               
response to  a follow-up question,  he confirmed that  the member                                                               
would receive the same allowances as a state employee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:14:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:14 p.m. to 1:15 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:15:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives Shaw,  Groh, Gray,                                                               
Saddler, and  Wright voted in  favor of Amendment 1.   Therefore,                                                               
Amendment 1 was adopted by a vote of 5-0.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:16:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  said he  supports the  bill and  ASDF; he                                                               
offered his  concern regarding  ASDF and  the potential  for that                                                               
department to evolve  into the National Guard.  He  said that his                                                               
intent was  to not start  the process  of providing more  pay and                                                               
benefits  that would  ordinarily go  to the  National Guard.   He                                                               
continued to  say that ASDF  is a  very good organization,  has a                                                               
good mission, and fills an important niche.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:17:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW  moved to  report HB 76,  as amended,  out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There  being  no objection,  CSHB  76 (MLV)  was                                                               
reported  out of  the  House Special  Committee  on Military  and                                                               
Veterans' Affairs Committee.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:17:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 1:17 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:17:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WRIGHT, reiterated  that CSHB 76 (MLV) was  reported out of                                                               
the  House Special  Committee on  Military and  Veterans' Affairs                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:18:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:18 p.m. to 1:19 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:19:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WRIGHT  advised  members  of  the  next  meetings  of  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:20:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Military &  Veterans' Affairs  meeting was                                                               
adjourned at 1:20 p.m.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 76 Amendment A.1 2.28.23.pdf HMLV 3/2/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 76